
Shortage of staff: Frankfurt continues to limit take-offs and landings
Frankfurt Airport and the local service providers have still not been able to solve their staffing problems. In the autumn of the previous year, the daily capacity had to be restricted. This measure will

Peter Gerber becomes the new Condor boss
With effect from February 1, 2024, the holiday airline Condor will be under the direction of the current Brussels Airlines boss Peter Gerber. He succeeds the longstanding managing director Ralf Teckentrup. "We are happy

Lufthansa crew copes with engine failure over Greenland - return to Frankfurt
A Lufthansa crew was faced with a difficult situation on Saturday when an engine failed during a transatlantic flight over Greenland. During a transatlantic flight from Frankfurt to Seattle (flight number: LH490).

D-AIMK: Lufthansa transfers A380 to Manila for C-Check
In the summer of 2023, Lufthansa will put some Airbus A380 aircraft back into scheduled service. For this purpose, the D-AIMK was transferred from Frankfurt am Main to Manila at the weekend. Background:

Cologne: Lufthansa is considering relocating its headquarters to Frankfurt or Munich
No other airline is as closely associated with Frankfurt am Main as Lufthansa. Although the largest administration location is also located here, the official company headquarters are located in Cologne. side

Paid catering: Lufthansa introduces online pre-ordering
The impromptu sale of food and beverages on board commercial aircraft does not run according to the airlines' ideas on every route. Lufthansa is now introducing that paid goods can be pre-ordered

Corendon with new routes from Hanover and Düsseldorf
The leisure airlines of the Corendon Group have removed numerous routes from the 2023 summer timetable in recent weeks. At the same time, new routes are planned from Hanover and Düsseldorf. The predominant

Corendon again shortens the 2023 summer flight schedule from the DA-CH region
The airline Corendon will be shorter in the 2023 summer flight schedule and less aggressively active in German-speaking countries. Numerous routes have already been discontinued this year, sometimes at very short notice

Bundesrat: Lower Saxony application against flight ticket advance payment rejected
The state government of Lower Saxony wanted to submit a motion for a resolution to the federal government via the Bundesrat, which should end the current practice of paying in advance for flight tickets. However, the advance was unsuccessful because

Frankfurt-Hahn: Insolvency administrator is looking for a “Plan B”
Frankfurt-Hahn Airport seems to magically attract problems relating to buyers, because Swift Conjoy GmbH has still not paid the purchase price. The deadline has been repeatedly extended.

Frankfurt-Hahn: Ryanair flies to Faro in summer
Ryanair has announced a new summer route from Frankfurt-Hahn. The low-cost airline will fly to Faro twice a week from April 2023. Ryanair confirmed that it will be operating a new Hahn to Frankfurt service from April

Wizz Air takes on Kutaisi from Frankfurt-Hahn and Hamburg
The low-cost airline Wizz Air is also offering the Georgian destination of Kutaisi from Frankfurt-Hahn and Hamburg in the 2023 summer flight schedule. The first flights are scheduled for June 2023. From the Hunsrück Airport

Skyalps includes Bozen-Kassel
Bolzano Airport's own brand, Skyalps, has announced two more routes: From May 2023, flights to Dubrovnik and Kassel-Calden will be offered from South Tyrol. These are said to be compatible with de Havilland Dash

Corendon Airlines connects Kassel-Calden with Antalya
Corendon Airlines started the connection between Antalya and Kassel on June 4th. The first flight was fully booked. Corendon Airlines will fly twice a week (Wednesdays &

Kassel-Calden: Vaccination campaign in the Airbus A400M
On January 29, 2022, the German Bundeswehr, in cooperation with the airport and the Johanniter, carried out a vaccination campaign in an Airbus A400M of Air Transport Wing 62 at Kassel-Calden Airport

DFS has taken over air traffic control services in Braunschweig
Since January 1, 2023, Braunschweig Airport in Germany has no longer been controlled by Austro Control. Air traffic control was taken over by DFS Aviation Services. A remote tower system is planned for the future

Braunschweig: “Der Schmidt” charters Boeing 737 Max for flights to Ras al Khaimah
The German tour operator “Der Schmidt” is expanding the range of charter services at Braunschweig Airport. From autumn 2022, flights to Ras al Khaimah will be offered with Boeing 737-Max. In the

Braunschweig: Tuifly will also fly for “Der Schmidt” in 2022
On behalf of the German tour operator "Der Schmidt", the holiday airline Tuifly will also fly from Braunschweig in the summer flight schedule of 2022. Tickets and package tours can be booked through the tour operator. The full charter flights lead

Cologne: Lufthansa is considering relocating its headquarters to Frankfurt or Munich
No other airline is as closely associated with Frankfurt am Main as Lufthansa. Although the largest administration location is also located here, the official company headquarters are located in Cologne. side

Lufthansa and Munich Airport want to further develop the airport
Munich Airport and Lufthansa want to expand the existing partnership and further develop the airport into an inter-modular transport hub. A corresponding declaration of intent was signed on Wednesday. With the letter of intent

Munich and Frankfurt: Etihad adjusts the aircraft
In the 2023 summer timetable, Etihad Airways is making changes to the aircraft on the routes from Abu Dhabi to Frankfurt and Munich. The Bavarian airport will be closed with effect from the 26th of April.

Jazeera Airways flies to Munich and Tirana
The low-cost airline Jazeera Airways will fly to two more European destinations from Kuwait City in the 2023 summer flight schedule: Munich and Tirana. From June 13, 2023, the Bavarian state capital will be closed on the traffic days Tuesday,

Defective weather radar: Cityline-A319 completed return landing in Munich
On Sunday, January 15, 2023, Lufthansa flight LH2284 had to make a return landing shortly after take-off in Munich. The background is that the weather radar of the Airbus A319 operated by Cityline with

ANA resumes Brussels and Munich
The Japanese All Nippon Airways plans to reactivate two European routes in March 2023. These are the destinations Brussels and Munich, which are each served from the capital Tokyo

Stuttgart Airport is building a hydrogen competence center
A center specializing in the development and production of hydrogen fuel cell systems for aircraft is being built on the site of Stuttgart-Echterdingen Airport. This will be managed by H2Fly. That

Stuttgart with 6.970.317 passengers in 2022
Stuttgart Airport was used by a total of 2022 passengers in the recently completed year 6.970.317. The German airport thus counted 95,1 percent more passengers than in 2021, in which

Summer 2023: Tuifly expands Djerba traffic
In the 2023 summer timetable, the holiday airline Tuifly will expand traffic between Germany and Djerba. The Tunisian destination is to be headed for from Hanover, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt, Munich and Stuttgart. From the last

Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden: Ryanair moves Agadir flights to Strasbourg
The low-cost airline Ryanair will serve the Agadir route for the last time from Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden on March 25, 2023. In the future, these will be offered from the nearby Strasbourg Airport. From the French airport

From Weeze and Karlsruhe: Ryanair takes on Bergamo
The low-cost airline Ryanair is starting a non-stop connection to Bergamo from Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden and Weeze. These new additions are to be served from the 2023 summer flight schedule. From Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden it should be twice a week from April 2023

Passenger numbers: 2022 was the second best year for Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden
The German regional airport Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden had a total of 2022 passengers in 1.315.525. This was only 31.000 fewer passengers than in the record year 2019

Mavi Gök Airlines takes on Friedrichshafen-Antalya
The Turkish holiday airline Mavi Gök Airlines intends to fly between Friedrichshafen and Antalya in midsummer 2023. It works on behalf of the group's own tour operators of the Anex Group. The first flight should

Bodensee-Airport looks back on a successful 2022
Around 340.000 passengers used the airport last year for trips to and from Friedrichshafen. The 339.550 passengers achieved correspond to an increase of 211.393 passengers and an increase of 165 percent compared to the previous year. That is 70 percent of the volume related to

Friedrichshafen: Wizz Air gives up Tirana flights
The low-cost airline Wizz Air will discontinue the non-stop connection between Tirana and Friedrichshafen. The provisionally last flight is scheduled for January 21, 2023. It's not the only one

Memmingen: Ryanair is also starting flights to Rome
From Memmingen in Bavaria, passengers will in future have the choice of two airlines flying to Rome-Fiumicino. Low-cost airline Ryanair has announced that it will serve the Italian capital twice from May 2023

Wizz Air incorporates Memmingen-Rome (FCO).
The low-cost airline Wizz Air will start a non-stop connection between Memmingen and Rome-Fiumicino in September 2023. This is to be offered twice a week for the time being, according to the Allgäu Airport in a broadcast. The first flight

Passenger numbers: Memmingen Airport with a new record
In 2022, Memmingen Airport in Bavaria was not only able to recover from the effects of the corona pandemic, but also exceeded the record level of 2019 by around 16 percent. Man

Eurowings/NFD founded 30 years ago at Nuremberg Airport
It was in the mid-1970s when Nuremberg textile entrepreneur Hans Rudolf Wöhrl founded Nürnberger Flugdienst (NFD), laying the foundation for what would later become Eurowings. The first

Nuremberg Airport had 3.277.996 passengers
Nuremberg Airport in Bavaria was used by 2022 passengers in 3.277.996. This almost tripled compared to the value achieved in 2021. However

Nuremberg Airport donates apron buses to the Ukraine
Nuremberg Airport in Bavaria has donated three decommissioned buses from the apron fleet for the Ukraine. The vehicles will be handed over to the “Bamberg:UA” association founded by Ukrainian students. This

Charter: Mavi Gök Airlines flies Saarbrücken-Antalya
According to the current state of affairs, there will be more Antalya flights from Saarbrücken in the 2023 summer timetable than ever before. Currently eleven rounds per week are planned by different carriers

Passenger numbers: Saarbrücken exceeds pre-crisis figures
The German airport Saarbrücken counted around 2022 passengers in the summer of 264.000, around 14 percent more than in the same period of 2019. The airport shows itself with the

Wizz Air closes Sarajevo base: Numerous Germany routes are eliminated
The low-cost airline Wizz Air will close the Sarajevo base, which only opened last year, at the end of October 2022. The closure means that only routes between Germany and the capital

Mannheim: Rhein-Neckar-Air reactivates Hamburg and takes on Heringsdorf
The corona pandemic has given the house brand of the German regional airport Mannheim a hard time. Apart from Sylt flights, the former city routes to Berlin (Tegel) and Mannheim have not yet been permanently reactivated.

Mannheim: Rhein-Neckar Air postpones the return to Berlin and Hamburg
Mannheim Airport's own brand, Rhein-Neckar Air, is postponing the resumption of non-stop flights to Berlin and Hamburg. These should actually have been reactivated on May 16, 2022, but the booking situation is

Mannheim: Rhein-Neckar Air resumes Berlin and Hamburg
Mannheim Airport's own brand, Rhein-Neckar Air, is reactivating the domestic German routes to Berlin-Brandenburg and Hamburg. Due to the corona pandemic, these were repeatedly suspended. From mid-May 2022 you want them again

Eurowings celebrates its 30s
The airline Eurowings celebrates its 1th anniversary on February 2023st, 30. The carrier emerged on February 1, 1993 from the merger of the NFD founded by Hans Rudolf Wöhrl and the

Dusseldorf: Many flight cancellations due to warning strikes
Due to a warning strike that took place between Friday, January 27, 2023 (3:30 a.m.) and Saturday, January 28, 2023 (0:30 a.m.) at Düsseldorf Airport

Condor takes Dusseldorf-Pristina
The holiday airline Condor will fly daily between Düsseldorf and Pristina in the 2023 summer flight schedule. It is a charter connection operated on behalf of the tour operator Air Prishtina. the

Condor starts Pristina flights from Dusseldorf
The German airline will start daily flights between Dusseldorf and Pristina with the start of the new summer timetable. On March 26, 2023, Condor will fly to the Kosovan capital daily. The flights will

Summer 2023: Eurowings wants to fly at pre-crisis levels
According to the company, the offer from the Lufthansa subsidiary Eurowings will be back to the level it was in 2023 in the summer of 2019. Among others from Berlin, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Cologne/Bonn,

Etihad sets course for Düsseldorf and Copenhagen
Golf carrier Etihad Airways will fly to Düsseldorf again from October 2023 and now to Copenhagen. The German city will initially be served three times a week and gradually increased if there is demand.

Cologne: Lufthansa is considering relocating its headquarters to Frankfurt or Munich
No other airline is as closely associated with Frankfurt am Main as Lufthansa. Although the largest administration location is also located here, the official company headquarters are located in Cologne. side

Wizz Air discontinues Cologne/Bonn-Cluj
The low-cost airline Wizz Air will give up another route to Germany with effect from February 18, 2023. The non-stop connection between Cologne/Bonn and Cluj in Romania is affected. has in the last few weeks

Cologne/Bonn had 8,8 million passengers
Cologne/Bonn Airport had around 2022 million passengers in 8,8. In a direct comparison with the value that was achieved a year earlier, it was thus possible to almost double.

Returnable bottles: Dortmund Airport donates to the Kinderglück Foundation
In Germany, there has been a one-way deposit for bottles and cans for many years. Containers for use at height land at airports in particular

With Cessna Caravan: Sylt Air takes Dortmund-Westerland
The airline Sylt Air will offer a non-stop connection between Dortmund and Westerland in the 2023 summer flight schedule. This will initially be served twice a week and will complement the existing service from Hamburg. in the

Almost 2,6 million: DTM achieves second-best result in history in 2022
A total of 2.586.342 passengers used Dortmund Airport last year. Thanks to the strong summer months with numerous passenger records, the forecast of around 2,45 million passengers could be met despite the pandemic and war in

2022: Münster/Osnabrück Airport had 834.424 passengers
Münster/Osnabrück Airport had a total of 2022 passengers in 834.424, which just ended. This meant that there were 130 percent more travelers than in 2021. However, it was well below the pre-crisis level,

Summer 2023: Smartlynx flies for Tui from Münster/Osnabrück
On behalf of the tour operator Tui Deutschland, the Smartlynx Group will serve a number of holiday destinations from the German airport Münster/Osnabrück in the 2023 summer flight schedule. For this purpose, aircraft are stationed on site. According to reports

Münster/Osnabrück Airport completes runway rehabilitation
After extensive renovation work on the runway, Münster/Osnabrück Airport resumed air traffic on Wednesday evening. In addition to renewing the top layer, the tracks were completely lit with energy-efficient LED lamps

Freebird takes on Paderborn-Djerba
The Maltese airline Freebird Europe is adding another destination to the 2023 summer flight schedule from Paderborn/Lippstadt. Djerba will be headed for in the future. The Tunisian city is scheduled to be served from August 30, 2023.

Paderborn reports 502.629 passengers
The German airport Paderborn/Lippstadt was used by 2022 passengers in 502.629. This was a significant increase compared to 2021, when there were 129.292 travelers. The Airport Board of Directors

Paderborn: Air Nostrum takes up Palma charter for Aida
Between May 6 and October 28, 2023, charter flights to Palma de Mallorca are to be offered from Paderborn/Lippstadt on behalf of the Aida shipping company. These serve as feeders for the cruises

Air Arabia Maroc takes on Weeze-Fes
From the beginning of March 2023, the airline Air Arabia Maroc will fly regularly to the German regional airport of Weeze. A non-stop connection to Fez is established. For the time being, once a week you want from June 2.

From Weeze and Karlsruhe: Ryanair takes on Bergamo
The low-cost airline Ryanair is starting a non-stop connection to Bergamo from Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden and Weeze. These new additions are to be served from the 2023 summer flight schedule. From Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden it should be twice a week from April 2023

Weeze expects significantly more passengers in 2023
The German regional airport Weeze has been able to handle around 85 percent of the passenger volume it had before the corona pandemic so far this year. In 2019 there were 1.030.000 passengers. For 2023 shows

Dual operation: Mönchengladbach also relies on drones
An operating concept for the parallel operation of manned and unmanned aircraft is to be developed at Mönchengladbach Airport. Around half a million euros will be invested in this over the next 1,5 years. the

Mönchengladbach wants to become a real laboratory for electric flying
The small Mönchengladbach airport wants to establish itself as a competence center for aviation with electric propulsion. On Friday, an e-plane made its circuits at the MGL for the first time. The airport has been doing research since 2019

New MGL managing director starts work
Today Andreas Ungar has his first working day as the new managing director of Mönchengladbach Airport (MGL). This completes the management team, along with managing director Ulrich Schückhaus and authorized signatory David Bongartz. Hungarian follows

Southwind Airlines has taken delivery of its first Airbus A321neo
The Turkish airline Southwind has taken delivery of its first brand new Airbus A321neo. The machine has the registration TC-GRE and, according to CH-Aviation.com, was flown from Hamburg (Finkenwerder) on January 20 and 21, 2023.

Base checks: Flyr has Lufthansa Technik waiting
The Norwegian low-cost airline Flyr will in future have the so-called base maintenance carried out by Lufthansa Technik. In this context, the two companies have entered into a three-year contract. Lufthansa Technik AG takes over

Lufthansa Technik maintains Airbus A350 APUs for Air France
The maintenance company Lufthansa Technik and the airline Air France have agreed on a contract for the maintenance of Auxiliary Power Units (APU) on the Airbus A350 aircraft. The term of the

Hamburg Airport sees itself on the road to recovery
Hamburg Airport was used by around 2022 million passengers in 11,1. This means that the North German airport had significantly more travelers than in 2021, but there were still delays

Mannheim: Rhein-Neckar-Air reactivates Hamburg and takes on Heringsdorf
The corona pandemic has given the house brand of the German regional airport Mannheim a hard time. Apart from Sylt flights, the former city routes to Berlin (Tegel) and Mannheim have not yet been permanently reactivated.

Eurowings cancels in Hamburg, Prague and Stockholm
The airline Eurowings is removing one route each from Hamburg and Prague and five from Stockholm-Arlanda in the 2023 summer flight schedule. These are mostly tourist routes. Bastia will

Bremen: British Airways closes German service center
The IAG group member British Airways dissolves the service center based in Bremen, Germany. Around 200 employees will be affected by the forthcoming liquidation. The carrier has operated under the name Flyline since 1996

Bremen has reached 65 percent of the pre-crisis volume
Bremen Airport in northern Germany had a total of 2022 passengers in the recently completed year 1.492.975. This was 137 percent above the value that could be achieved a year earlier. However

Greens want to take Bremen Airport off the grid
The Greens involved in the state government in Bremen put the de facto closure of the local airport in the area. If it goes according to the plans of this party, the commercial airport could soon

LBC: Lübeck Air gives first insights into summer flight plan
After the charter airline Sundair had already announced its summer destinations from Lübeck and, in addition to Crete, Mallorca and Antalya, also offered Corfu as a new holiday destination for the 2023 season, it is now moving

Lübeck Air sets course for Naples
In the 2023 summer timetable, Lübeck-Blankensee Airport's own brand, Lübeck Air, will also fly to Naples in Italy. The flights are to be offered from May 14, 2023 on the Sunday traffic day. for now is

Summer 2023: Sundair is planning four holiday destinations from Lübeck
The holiday airline Sundair plans to be present again at the German airport in Lübeck in the summer of 2023. The program, which consists of four destinations, will be gradually introduced from the beginning of May 2023.

With Cessna Caravan: Sylt Air takes Dortmund-Westerland
The airline Sylt Air will offer a non-stop connection between Dortmund and Westerland in the 2023 summer flight schedule. This will initially be served twice a week and will complement the existing service from Hamburg. in the

Green Airlines cancels all flights
Ticket seller Green Airlines is throwing in the towel “indefinitely”. The company announced that "maintaining operations at the present time is neither economically nor ecologically justifiable". You promise that

HAM: Syltair resumes flights to Westerland
The German airline will reintroduce the flight connection to Westerland in the summer months. Then it goes directly from Hamburg Airport to the island. “From April 14 we offer

Mannheim: Rhein-Neckar-Air reactivates Hamburg and takes on Heringsdorf
The corona pandemic has given the house brand of the German regional airport Mannheim a hard time. Apart from Sylt flights, the former city routes to Berlin (Tegel) and Mannheim have not yet been permanently reactivated.

Bern: Lübeck Air flies to Heringsdorf on Saturdays
Air Alsie has been operating the Bern-Heringsdorf route with ATR72-500s on behalf of Lübeck Air since May 28, 2022. The seasonal route is expected to be available until October 22, 2022. cooperation partner

Green Airlines cancels all flights
Ticket seller Green Airlines is throwing in the towel “indefinitely”. The company announced that "maintaining operations at the present time is neither economically nor ecologically justifiable". You promise that

Germany: Traffic Court Day dealt with aviation for the first time
For the first time, the German Traffic Court Day also dealt with legal questions relating to air traffic. For this purpose, a separate working group was set up, in which experts from the various areas explore the area of conflict between the protection of sensitive

Malta MedAir for the first time for Medsky Airways in Berlin
The Maltese airline Malta MedAir operated the first flight between Berlin and Misurata on Friday, January 27, 2023. The client was Medsky Airways, a virtual airline from Libya. Simultaneously

New York: Delta flies to Berlin and Geneva year-round
The US airline Delta Air Lines will in future fly to the destinations of Geneva and Berlin all year round from New York-JFK. So far, these have been seasonal routes. Likewise, one becomes London-Heathrow all year round

Sundair with new routes in summer 2023
The leisure airline Sundair is serving some new routes in the 2023 summer timetable. For example, there are new routes from Berlin to Funchal and Hurghada, Palma de Mallorca and Monastir. The carrier flies from Bremen

BER: Flight operations are returning to normal
Flight operations at the capital's airport BER resumed on Wednesday after a warning strike. The first machines took off and landed again, around 400 flights are on the schedule today. The airport

Standstill at BER: 35.000 passengers affected
Anyone who wanted to fly to/from Berlin on Wednesday, January 24, 2022 cannot do so. Commercial air traffic is complete due to a warning strike called by the Verdi union

MDF AG extends with service provider Klüh
Mitteldeutsche Flughafen AG, which is behind Leipzig/Halle and Dresden airports, has extended an existing service contract with Klüh by five years. In Leipzig/Halle, this company provides in

Dresden and Leipzig/Halle airports were able to more than double the number of passengers
Last year, Dresden and Leipzig/Halle airports counted a total of 2.403.772 passengers. This means that passenger numbers have more than doubled. Dresden Airport counted 841.522 passengers, 154 percent more than in 2021.

Leipzig/Halle Airport newly regulates short-term parking times
Leipzig/Halle Airport is reorganizing its parking system; new parking regulations will come into force from January 2023. The three priority lanes in front of Terminal B will be subject to a fee and restricted. Areas for contract customers

MDF AG extends with service provider Klüh
Mitteldeutsche Flughafen AG, which is behind Leipzig/Halle and Dresden airports, has extended an existing service contract with Klüh by five years. In Leipzig/Halle, this company provides in

Dresden and Leipzig/Halle airports were able to more than double the number of passengers
Last year, Dresden and Leipzig/Halle airports counted a total of 2.403.772 passengers. This means that passenger numbers have more than doubled. Dresden Airport counted 841.522 passengers, 154 percent more than in 2021.

Momento launches additional charter destinations from Dresden
Under the “Momento powered by SZ Reisen” brand, five additional destinations will be offered from Dresden in the 2023 summer flight schedule. It is Ischia, Gulf of Sorrento, Sicily, Aeolian Islands

Charter: Ita Airways flies from Rostock to Rome and Milan-Linate
The airline Ita Airways will fly to Rostock-Laage Airport in Germany from Milan-Linate and Rome-Fiumicino in the 2023 summer flight schedule. These are charter flights that are carried out on behalf of a tour operator. Both

Rostock Airport and DLR agree on spaceport cooperation
Rostock-Laage Airport and the German Aerospace Center have agreed to cooperate on the expansion of the airport into a spaceport. Both parties signed a contract for this

From Bremen and Rostock: Lufthansa carries out training flights with Boeing 787-9
As early as this coming weekend, Lufthansa will be completing a number of training flights with the first Boeing 787-9. First, the D-ABPA will head for Bremen and Rostock-Laage. After successful practice flights, the long-haul aircraft will be used temporarily within Germany

Erfurt expects 140.000 passengers
Erfurt Airport had around 2022 passengers between March and the end of October 119.900. Compared to the same period last year, it was possible to increase by 93 percent. The most passengers were with 25.400 travelers

Summer holidays 2022: Erfurt records a significant increase in passengers
Erfurt-Weimar Airport has been used by 62.371 passengers since the start of the local summer holidays. In a direct comparison with the same period last year, the number of passengers tripled. Currently under

Photo gallery: European Air Charter new with MD-82 from Erfurt to Burgas
The Bulgarian airline European Air Charter is now offering non-stop flights from Erfurt to Burgas. On board the first flight, which was operated on a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, were noisy